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Millhouse76
I am looking into importing my own Dnepr and was wondering what steps I would go through to get it titled in the state of Washington. I tried looking on their state web page but it might as well been in Greek. I will be disassembling the bike. Mailing it home then reassembling it at a later date. I don't want to do this and then find out months later I did something illegal or because I didn't go through the right channels I can't legally register it.

Thanks

Ryan
OldSkool
QUOTE (Millhouse76 @ Jan 28 2010, 07:35 AM) *
I am looking into importing my own Dnepr and was wondering what steps I would go through to get it titled in the state of Washington. I tried looking on their state web page but it might as well been in Greek. I will be disassembling the bike. Mailing it home then reassembling it at a later date. I don't want to do this and then find out months later I did something illegal or because I didn't go through the right channels I can't legally register it.

Thanks

Ryan

In Massachusetts, my imported dnepr had a ukraine title, so after having it translated to english, with a bill of sale was able to register, dont know about washington though,If you have a bill of sale or title you should be able to register.Do your researh first, If you try hard you can find someone at the registry with knowledge.
gspell68
You can't find a RAMCO Dnepr out in Washington State (where they were made)?
Millhouse76
QUOTE (gspell68 @ Jan 28 2010, 05:43 PM) *
You can't find a RAMCO Dnepr out in Washington State (where they were made)?


I found some Dneprs here in Iraq that I want to take a part and ship home. I got the clearance so now I just want to make sure I can do this. Rather than go through all this only to get it home and have to sell it for parts.
johnR
If you need a place to ship some extra Dnepr parts-PM me and I'll give you an address!! thumbsup!.gif
John
shoetou
parts ill take some !! there was just a posting about a place on the Internet Mainely titles that some body got a bike titled through them its under nuts and bolts
gspell68
QUOTE (Millhouse76 @ Jan 28 2010, 12:46 PM) *
QUOTE (gspell68 @ Jan 28 2010, 05:43 PM) *
You can't find a RAMCO Dnepr out in Washington State (where they were made)?


I found some Dneprs here in Iraq that I want to take a part and ship home. I got the clearance so now I just want to make sure I can do this. Rather than go through all this only to get it home and have to sell it for parts.

I brought an M-72 home ( http://gspell68.multiply.com/photos/album/...2M_Solo_Project ) as a war tropy.
The secret would be to make sure that the war trophy form contains a date of 1977 or older when old bikes were grandfathered in (or you can probably get away with 1985 or older as per the regulation). According to the reg, pre-1977 is an exclusion, 1978-1985 (at least 25 year old) is an exemption. It really shouldn't make a difference, though.
When you pack it up to bring it home, list it as "bike parts" not "motorcycle parts" on the paperwork to get by the unit appointed nazi military inspectors.
The real civilian customs inspectors don't give a rat's a$$.
gspell68
Here's the new form I used. Once it's approved, it's basically your "bill-o'-sale" for registration.
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/infomgt...ms/dd0603-1.pdf

Basically, if it don't go "BOOM!", you can't otherwise kill somebody with it, or it's not restricted by real civilian customs it'll be approved if there's space available.

However, your DMV may ask for import documentation that you'll have to get from customs.
Here's the DOT/EPA forms and regs. The forms are short. Claim exemption code 1 on the DOT form and exeption code E on the EPA form. Get customs to approve them and take them to the DMV.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/factmnb.htm -the pertinent part of the EPA regulation.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/forms/3520-1.pdf -the EPA form.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import...ml#Anchor-28852 -the pertinent part of the DOT regulation.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/hs799short.pdf -the DOT form.

Here's where to get a VIN tag in the event yours may have fallen off or if you have to correct a factory defect where they stamped the incorrect date! rolleyes.gif

I haven't finished the process for my M-72 but I have done it with 2 other Dneprs from Germany.


Millhouse76
QUOTE (gspell68 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:37 AM) *
Here's the new form I used. Once it's approved, it's basically your "bill-o'-sale" for registration.
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/infomgt...ms/dd0603-1.pdf

Basically, if it don't go "BOOM!", you can't otherwise kill somebody with it, or it's not restricted by real civilian customs it'll be approved if there's space available.

However, your DMV may ask for import documentation that you'll have to get from customs.
Here's the DOT/EPA forms and regs. The forms are short. Claim exemption code 1 on the DOT form and exeption code E on the EPA form. Get customs to approve them and take them to the DMV.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/factmnb.htm -the pertinent part of the EPA regulation.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/forms/3520-1.pdf -the EPA form.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import...ml#Anchor-28852 -the pertinent part of the DOT regulation.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/hs799short.pdf -the DOT form.

Here's where to get a VIN tag in the event yours may have fallen off or if you have to correct a factory defect where they stamped the incorrect date! rolleyes.gif

I haven't finished the process for my M-72 but I have done it with 2 other Dneprs from Germany.



This is all great information. I was hoping you would reply since I know your story of finding bike in the dump while deployed. The two things that are different in my case are I am buying it from and Iraqi Soldier and since I'm on a small team I don't have an ISU 90 or connex to put it in. I will have to ship it on my own dime. I figure I can strip it down and clean it up pretty well. I can ship all the parts no problem. I will have to tear down the motor and then ship the frame, sidecar, and sidecar frame through DHL to the states.

I guess I should suppose I should go through the war trophy paperwork to help get the customs problem solved. I will be registering these in WA.

Have you got your Iraqi bike on the road legally yet?

Cheers

Ryan
gspell68
Are you normally stationed in Europe by any chance? It'd be easier and cheaper to ship it to Germany, put it together, register it with a bill-o'-sale (a USAREUR registration is a title!), then ship it home in your household goods later.

Do you happen to have any photos of the bike???

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I will have to ship it on my own dime. I figure I can strip it down and clean it up pretty well. I can ship all the parts no problem. I will have to tear down the motor and then ship the frame, sidecar, and sidecar frame through DHL to the states.

That's what i was going to do, too. However, I think they have a size limit. They may make exceptions, though.
It'd probably be best to have someone take it down to the port and put it on a roll-on/roll-off transport, but I have no idea how you could co-ordinate it.

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I guess I should suppose I should go through the war trophy paperwork to help get the customs problem solved. I will be registering these in WA.

If you are buying it and it actually pre-dates 1985, all you should need are those two DOT/EPA forms.
But if you ship it in pieces, I'm not sure how that'd work.

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Have you got your Iraqi bike on the road legally yet?

No. It's all painted and stashed in my closet!
I've got two other ones that keep me busy enough. I'm on post in quarters with no garage to rebuild it. Had the Army left me at Fort Hood where I have a house, it'd be finished by now.




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