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#1 3 bike mike

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 05:23 PM

Hi has anyone used one of these ?
What has been your experiences ?
Available in both 6 to 12 volt and 12 volt upgrade

https://www.olx.pl/o...html#395ad78204

https://www.olx.pl/o...html#395ad78204

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 07:49 PM

The Denso alternators are very reliable, Ural has been using them since 2004. I am still running the original that came on my 2004 Retro, I have had it checked for wear and nothing needed replacing. Hopefully on your listings the longer coupling has a Lovejoy coupling or similar to prevent damage to the timing gears in the event of a lockup, the Ural adapter has such a coupling. It's good insurance even if rarely needed.

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 02:09 AM

View Post3 bike mike, on 16 December 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:

Hi has anyone used one of these ?
What has been your experiences ?
Available in both 6 to 12 volt and 12 volt upgrade

https://www.olx.pl/o...html#395ad78204

https://www.olx.pl/o...html#395ad78204

I do such modifications for a friend of mine. Very reliable but... be ware at the frame fitting. On the Ural M63 we have to cut the air filter and some minor frame modifications.Attached File  20161017_141352.jpg   102.49K   6 downloads
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Posted 17 December 2017 - 02:10 AM

The alternator is from Suzuki  Gsxf bike
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Posted 17 December 2017 - 02:25 AM

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I also ca recommend you this solution. Identical 6V case but is an alternator and it's produced 12V 15o Watts. A bolt on solution and it's looking 1oo% originally. A small inconvenience, the  price. About 42o European Money.Attached File  12v.jpg   131.96K   19 downloads

This solution is provided by a German online shop. I will look about the link and I will put it here
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Posted 17 December 2017 - 02:44 AM

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 05:45 AM

Very interesting , thanks for the replies, Yes i had seen the one that cost 420 euro it looks very nice but if it fails there are no easy replacements available. So i think I prefer the Suzuki based alternator, at least you could get one of those at a reasonable price almost anywhere.
Is there a cush drive in the  unit or has the alternator shaft been extended somehow ? Either way  which do you guys think is best ? I am thinking cush drive as it would give so flexibility ???

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 09:20 AM

Yes, the genuine Suzuki alt comes from factory with a cush drive but, if you let it on prolong the entire assembly and that is not good. Ideal is to mount a cush drive and keep the assembly as short as possible.

At my adaptation I use only a prolonged shaft but no cush drive.
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Posted 17 December 2017 - 05:31 PM

Garbage bear,
so with your system to use suzuki alternator, do you sell this adaptor part only and the customer buys the alternator ? or you sell the whole unit including the alternator ?  
How would the customer change the alternator if they ever needed to ?
this is for MT11 12 volt bike, But i am also interested in alternator for MT 9 as well as i have both bikes !!
You say you use prolonged shaft, How is this done ? do you have some pictures, I am no engineer and could not make my own !!!
Thanks mike

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 03:08 AM

:-):-):-)...  Hi Mike!  Mate, I don't sale anything. I do the adaptation for a good friend of mine and I do it for free. But only the manufacturer on the lathe machine cost here the equivalent of 65o zlots. You find the entire ansambly with 75o zlots:-). I am in this joint with sidecar bikes for many many years and I am a repair man.  I was make many many russian to Denso conversion but only to put it on the bikes who arrived in my garage. A 12 Volts russian to Denso conversion cost 1oo $ but I see on eBay new Russian Ural 75o Denso type alternator with 90$.:-). Making a thing by hand cost more than by produced in a factory.  I be glad to explain you how is the shaft don but in very hard. That because the American English language is not my native language and I don't know how put it in words. And also because the entire work was during 6 hours. The Suzuki alt was fully removable for latest repairs. I also put 4 ball bearing instead of 2 as an improved.

If you think I can help you with any advice I be glad to do it.
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Posted 18 December 2017 - 03:27 AM

12V Russian to Denso conversion Attached File  rsz_20170405_200129.jpg   125.76K   14 downloadsAttached File  20161008_104621.jpg   143.04K   18 downloads
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Posted 18 December 2017 - 03:40 AM

Thank you Garbage Bear, This is very interesting, So do you think to buy one or both these types would be the best way to go ? if it is 750 PL zloty including the alternator thats not a bad price. Should i change or add a second set of bearings if i bought them ?
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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:00 PM

View Post3 bike mike, on 18 December 2017 - 03:40 AM, said:

Thank you Garbage Bear, This is very interesting, So do you think to buy one or both these types would be the best way to go ? if it is 750 PL zloty including the alternator thats not a bad price. Should i change or add a second set of bearings if i bought them ?
Many thanks
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https://www.olx.pl/o...html#395ad78204

https://www.olx.pl/o...html#395ad78204


So... Mike. For the 6V to 12 volt conversion I think is a very good deal. But ask first if on your bike it's come with some minor frame modification or any other modification.

For the 12V Russian to Denso conversion check if an genuine 12V Ural Denso fits on your bike. I see those on ebay brand new at 8o-9o $.

I think if you are insured that the bearing are new is no need to change it.
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Posted 18 December 2017 - 03:46 PM

Many thanks, I will check before ordering anything. What part of Transylvania are you in garbage Bear ?
I was in Ukraine on my MT9 earlier this year, and am thinking what to do for next years trip.
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Posted 18 December 2017 - 04:23 PM

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