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#1 mochara

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:37 AM

hello there,
I thought I would introduce myself, give a little background and put up a few pictures of the machine.
i have been into bikes from a young age and have had many over the years from 80cc 2 strokes to 1000cc+ modern machines, but this is my first venture into classic/vintage motorcycles.
i bought the bike a few weeks ago and am hoping to get it back roadworthy and use it for sunday drives.
it is registered as a 1958 machine, and from what i can see it seems to be complete. cosmetically the bike is in fair condition but it needs  good bit of mechanical work done.
the work that needs to be done are,
wheel bearings all round.
bike not charging the battery
no brakes to speak of, it seems that there should be a steel band pressed into the wheel hubs for the shoes to rub on, but mine are not there, so new wheels/hubs are needed.
the steering head bearings need doing.
it as a few oil leaks here and there.
carburettor rebuild/replacement.
front forks leak oil all over the place and are very bouncy
the compression is low enough- 65 psi each cylinder  but the bike starts first kick and seems to run ok, so i will get it driving first an then see how it goes.

i am sure i will have many questions for ye guys over the next while, but i look forward to getting a great looking old machine back out on the road.
one question i have is where is the best place online to buy parts for there bikes

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:38 AM

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:40 AM

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:41 AM

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:43 AM

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 11:43 AM

Very nice looking bike.  Have fun with the restoration.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:08 PM

nice
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Posted 29 May 2015 - 06:47 AM

She's a beauty! Please keep us updated on your progress. Your experience will be a help to those who follow in your footsteps. :smile:
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Posted 29 May 2015 - 09:30 AM

Welcome! Nice bike, looks fairly well preserved. Pretty sure the brake drums have all been changed and are not original style.
There are many sources for parts.

I borrowed the following for you from another forum.

http://moto-boxer.com/
http://www.ural-zentrale.de/
http://www.f2motorcy...al_options.html
http://www.oldtimerg...talog/index.php
http://www.henriksson.ee/
http://www.rustyrescues.co.uk/ Also on Facebook.... https://www.facebook... ... 6436076752
http://russianiron.com/
http://www.kbmtc.ru/index.htm
http://www.sidecaraf...pair Manual.pdf
http://www.cossackmo...om/ural750.html
http://www.cossackmo....com/dnepr.html
http://ural.wikispac...placement Parts
http://www.henriksson.ee/?setlang=19

EBAY sources:
http://stores.ebay.c...-Buy-Now?_rdc=1
http://stores.ebay.c...TO-WORLD?_rdc=1
http://stores.ebay.c...ORCYCLES?_rdc=1
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Posted 29 May 2015 - 03:05 PM

Nice looking bike. It actually does look like a genuine 1958 KMZ made m72. Wheels are correct for the year if they have a grease nipple for the bearings fitted on the outside face. Similar wheels with minor variations were used by KMZ Dnepr from round 1957 right up to factory closure .

Wheel bearings are standard 30204 type from any supplier
Steering head bearings are specials made originally for pre 1969 BMW's. Get them from pyramid parts on Ebay or try CJ750 ones from Ben at sidecarpro.com. CJ type pz28's carbs should be a straight swop for the ones you have but most M72's were fitted with unobtainium PZ24 type.

The forks are more problematic. They are superb but were only fitted for a few years between about 1957-1963 and were discontinued because they wear very quickly and need lots of maintenance . Parts are very difficult to get hold of.

Good luck with it, that bike deserves to be used.

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 09:43 PM

Looks like correct drums for KMZ M72H with leading link fork?  Had to consult my Weav's book as I own an IMZ M72 . Sorry if I confused the issue mochara. Trying to help. Good luck.

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 05:38 PM

hello there again,
thanks for the welcome and helpful tips.
i made a start on the bike yesterday. first job i have decided to tackle is the front brakes and suspension.
it took a while and lots of wd40 to get the forks off the bike.the top yoke was well and truly stuck on.
i already knew that there was no steel liner inside the wheel hub, hence not much braking effort, but the taking the front end apart and looking at a few parts diagrams online, another problem has popped up. it seems that in a previous life someone ruined the axle threads in the short link arm, so what they did was to crudely grind down the wheel axle and re-thread it to a smaller size and put a nut on the outside of the short link. the axle is fairly rough looking, which means the brake hub is not perfectly centered on the axle itself.the threads in the short link arm are well beyond repair, so i think maybe the best thing to do is drill out the the threaded hole to clean it up and see about making up a new longer axle to suit it and put everything back in perfect alignment.
i plan to strip the forks themselves next and see if the oil leaks can be fixed.

thanks for the parts suppliers info, have checked them out and am making a list of what i think i will need. one ebay vendor named arbalet seems to have a lot of stuff for these machines as well as a few other vendors .

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 06:14 PM

Personally, I won't buy from Alenka ( arbalet) . I spent lots of money with her at one time but an order went wrong and all I got from her was a tissue of lies.

You will actually find Genuine M72 parts are quite rare and many parts offered by the Ukrainian sellers are misdiscribed, a few K750 parts are correct but be carefull what you order

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 02:35 PM

Hello Mochara, Welcome aboard. Nice-looking rig! Good luck on your restoration. I have been to Ireland. Beautiful country! The west coast is awesome!

#15 mochara

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 01:08 PM

a quick update on progress. I disassembled the forks and examined the parts. the short link shaft has a good bit of wear in it and it is this that is causing the oil to leak out the bottom of the forks past the oil seal. I have measured all the parts and have tried in vain to find new bearings to replace the old ones. but it seems that they are not made by anyone. I can get new individual bearing needles of the same size. so my plan is to replace the old bearing needs, and use a product called " SKF speedi sleeve " to repair the worn part of the shaft where the oil seal sits. basically it is a cylindrical shim that presses over the existing shaft and covers over the worn/pitted area. I have sourced new seals of the same dimensions so hopefully this will keep the oil where it is supposed to be.

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