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#1 shoetou

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

I see its working well one post in one forum and three in the other cant we go back the the old way and just have one
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if only the mt 16 could go 50 mph

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:28 AM

View Postshoetou, on 19 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

I see its working well one post in one forum and three in the other cant we go back the the old way and just have one

No! Look how many problems have been fixed by separating the old from the new. It's just a quiet period.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:58 PM

View Postroscoau, on 20 March 2013 - 04:28 AM, said:

View Postshoetou, on 19 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

I see its working well one post in one forum and three in the other cant we go back the the old way and just have one

No! Look how many problems have been fixed by separating the old from the new. It's just a quiet period.

Yes! Might be quiet because some people have stopped posting? It's messy

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:28 PM

The old days and the old ways are fine, IF and only IF one was around for them and survived them.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:21 AM

View Postdneprlover, on 20 March 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

View Postroscoau, on 20 March 2013 - 04:28 AM, said:

View Postshoetou, on 19 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

I see its working well one post in one forum and three in the other cant we go back the the old way and just have one

No! Look how many problems have been fixed by separating the old from the new. It's just a quiet period.

Yes! Might be quiet because some people have stopped posting? It's messy
I agree, It has become a bit messy and might put people off using it.
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

I vote we go back to the old way
Marko

2008 Dnepr mt 16 true year any body's guess

There is more to life than increasing its speed
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if only the mt 16 could go 50 mph

I think a good name for my MT 16 is (the bad girl) every body wants to ride her but nobody wants to take her home )

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#7 roscoau

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:38 AM

View Postdneprlover, on 20 March 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

It's messy

Is it really that hard to work out if your bike is old or new? Some people are easily confused... :ninja:
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#8 dneprlover

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 03:10 AM

View Postroscoau, on 24 March 2013 - 04:38 AM, said:

View Postdneprlover, on 20 March 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

It's messy

Is it really that hard to work out if your bike is old or new? Some people are easily confused... :ninja:


Admin has changed the category titles since this thread was started,In the context of that, your post is not really fair. The title change is an improvement but still assumes that Dnepr's ceased in 2001

#9 roscoau

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:58 AM

View Postdneprlover, on 25 March 2013 - 03:10 AM, said:

View Postroscoau, on 24 March 2013 - 04:38 AM, said:

View Postdneprlover, on 20 March 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

It's messy

Is it really that hard to work out if your bike is old or new? Some people are easily confused... :ninja:


Admin has changed the category titles since this thread was started,In the context of that, your post is not really fair. The title change is an improvement but still assumes that Dnepr's ceased in 2001

Did they? I haven't seen that since I came to the thread via the 'new content' link rather than clicking through the forum.

Actually, I never really thought of Dneprs. To me they all come under the heading of 'old'. :wink:  I don't even know offhand when they last did any real development on them - I certainly don't count assembling boxes of left overs as 'production'.

Personally I'd divide it arbitarily based on significant development. Something like 750 Urals + everything else. That seems more practical.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 06:01 AM

Lol. Ignorance is indeed bliss! Post 2000 models of Dnepr had redesigned and cast gearbox casings with electric start built in and new models were developed up to about 2005, but the factory didn't have investment to launch them. Everything was was indeed tight up to about 2007 when things really went wrong due to not being able to repair or replace worn out machinery. Final closure was in late 2011.

Ps. Do you include IMZ 750's in your definition of Ural, or do you only consider the Russian/American ones?

I have to agree with some other posters who have said this site is becoming a clone of SS , even down to the same posts appearing on both sites

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:37 AM

My Ural is a 2003 model but appears to have more in common with the pre 2002 models than the post 2002 models, so that's me  confused.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 05:21 AM

View Postdneprlover, on 25 March 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

Ps. Do you include IMZ 750's in your definition of Ural, or do you only consider the Russian/American ones?

I was going to say Russian/American ones + 'the rest' but I didn't want to upset anyone...  :huh2:

The important thing would seem to be at what point the major changes started since the problem this is trying to solve is people with new bikes being given (well intended though it is) information which no longer applies.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:38 PM

View Postroscoau, on 26 March 2013 - 05:21 AM, said:


The important thing would seem to be at what point the major changes started since the problem this is trying to solve is people with new bikes being given (well intended though it is) information which no longer applies.

The problem is actually the other way round. I can find several recent examples where new Ural owners have badly advised older bike ownersl especially Dnepr's, but can find no examples where bad advise has been given to a new Ural owner by a rider of an older model. Older Urals are an older version of the new ones and some information transgresses the years. Dnepr's are a different animal entirely as far as the engine/gearbox is concerned .

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:39 AM

View Postdneprlover, on 26 March 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

The problem is actually the other way round. I can find several recent examples where new Ural owners have badly advised older bike ownersl especially Dnepr's

Either way, the solution is the same.
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