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#1 Pete Swede

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:53 PM

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:32 AM

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:20 AM

it could be KMZ (the superior Soviet motorcycles :beer!: ) but that plate is soo faultless, that rivet is a pop rivet and I think it should have been a solid rivet... so I would say that plate has been added recently.
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:41 AM

View PostAlecu, on 10 March 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

it could be KMZ (the superior Soviet motorcycles :beer!: ) but that plate is soo faultless, that rivet is a pop rivet and I think it should have been a solid rivet... so I would say that plate has been added recently.


http://www.oldtimerg...ges/001.461.JPG


That rivet should be a round headed screw and it just so happens that Oldtimer Garage sells the same plate.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:45 AM

View Postdneprlover, on 10 March 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

View PostAlecu, on 10 March 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

it could be KMZ (the superior Soviet motorcycles :beer!: ) but that plate is soo faultless, that rivet is a pop rivet and I think it should have been a solid rivet... so I would say that plate has been added recently.


http://www.oldtimerg...ges/001.461.JPG


That rivet should be a round headed screw and it just so happens that Oldtimer Garage sells the same plate.

It could have been re-attached after a paint job, but that doesn't appear to be the case! It hardly matters- I think the M72 motors are pretty identical, so the difference is in sheet metal and wheel hubs. My bike had an IMZ stamp on the engine case, but KMZ was cast into the pistons and rear bearing carrier. I don't know if that was from a rebuild or if the factories shipped parts between one another.

It is said though, that the KMZs were mostly for military use, so they had better quality control. You might not know until you start your tear-down....
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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:59 AM

It could have been re-attached after a paint job, but that doesn't appear to be the case! It hardly matters-
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I don't think it matters at all as long as the plate matches the paperwork and the bike. Personally, I'd get rid of those ugly incorrect rivets and make it look nicer with screws. Otherwise, just carry on.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

My first reaction was exactly the same... My feeling was dark brown, stained brass, round head screws or rivets. Not what it looks like now. So I have the same feeling that it's a quite new tag... I have the original Russian registration, but that one doesn't state the manufacturer...

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:17 AM

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 11:29 AM

View PostPete Swede, on 10 March 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:



I went to bed with a Russian girl and waked up with a Ukrainian one...


Well if you have any spare ones in the garage , send them to the UK :biggrin: (must love Dnepr's though)

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:44 PM

Well, since the tag says 1955 and the registration is dated 1953 something doesn't match or got shuffled at some point!
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:48 AM

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Well, since the tag says 1955 and the registration is dated 1953 something doesn't match or got shuffled at some point!

It's really says 1953 but it looks very much as a 5 on the pic...

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 12:06 PM

You guys are sick, you're in bed with a gal that loves you, and you check for the tag around her neck! to see if she answers to another name....if she kicks yer arse out on the cold floor, you had it coming......wise ol' man....Ken    :party:

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 01:53 PM

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You guys are sick, you're in bed with a gal that loves you, and you check for the tag around her neck! to see if she answers to another name....if she kicks yer arse out on the cold floor, you had it coming......wise ol' man....Ken :party:


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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:00 PM

and those papers say that in '77, they installed a KMZ K750 engine.
K750 and M72 have differnet engien casings and other much smaller differences. K750/MW750/MT12 engines are very sturdy.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:59 PM

View PostAlecu, on 12 March 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

and those papers say that in '77, they installed a KMZ K750 engine.
K750 and M72 have differnet engien casings and other much smaller differences. K750/MW750/MT12 engines are very sturdy.

I have seen this in the paper, and I've been looking everywhere after pictures on M72 and K750 engines... As far as I understand, from all the pics I have, it's a M72 or a very early K750. She doesn't have any "cooling fins" and no "lip" at the bottom of the case ... I still think its an M72 (IMZ or KMZ), witch means that someone change engine again after 77 or even after 98 when she came to Sweden...




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