police raid, terrorist captured Options

[Martyn]

A couple of days ago,in a little village called hirwaun,just up the road from me, the police anti-terrorist squad raided a little house a couple of doors up
from the local pub.they dragged out a little man called Trevor.they rushed him to london,and no-one seems to know what's happened to him.
the police said that he's not linked to alquaeda or any european terrorist cell.So why did they arrest him,and where has he gone?
very suspicious!
ride safe and free,martyn,aberdare.

[neil]

A couple of days ago,in a little village called hirwaun,just up the road from me, the police anti-terrorist squad raided a little house a couple of doors up
from the local pub.they dragged out a little man called Trevor.they rushed him to london,and no-one seems to know what's happened to him.
the police said that he's not linked to alquaeda or any european terrorist cell.So why did they arrest him,and where has he gone?
very suspicious!
ride safe and free,martyn,aberdare.

A 58-year-old man from south Wales is to appear in court charged with soliciting murder and offences under the Terrorism Act, say police.

He was arrested in Hirwaun, Rhondda Cynon Taf, last week and taken to west Yorkshire for questioning.

He also faces a charge of using threatening abusive or insulting words likely to stir up racial hatred.

Another man, 42, from Leigh, Greater Manchester is also charged. They are to appear in court at Westminster later.

The 58-year-old man is also charged with possession of records containing information likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism contrary to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000 and disseminating a terrorist publication contrary to Section 2 under the Terrorism Act 2006.

http://forums.walesonline.co.uk/viewtopic....f=5&t=12872

Cheers,

[jules]

This " Terrorism" threat has certainly been used to foist draconian legislation on the public at large. The words in the law; " likely to stir up " and " likely to be useful to" are so wide open to abuse that it's a joke. I am not commenting on the guilt or otherwise of the case, but the laws being used certainly are a cause for concern. The voters need to stop this type of rot and stealing of basic civil liberties disguised as "terrorist legislation".

[neil]

This " Terrorism" threat has certainly been used to foist draconian legislation on the public at large. The words in the law; " likely to stir up " and " likely to be useful to" are so wide open to abuse that it's a joke. I am not commenting on the guilt or otherwise of the case, but the laws being used certainly are a cause for concern. The voters need to stop this type of rot and stealing of basic civil liberties disguised as "terrorist legislation".

Ofcourse he is guilty, well if he is Welsh anyway...................oops

Anyway, The British Police are so closly scrutinised now that they cannot afford to arrest someone without some form of intelligence/evidence.

And my honest opinion is that if some innocent people get to spend a few nights in a cell for the greater good so be it.
I for one would not like the Police/intelligence/Military to down tools because a few do-gooders got upset. I dont believe that the law makers are trying to steal our civil rights,
but are trying to preserve them the best way they can given the circumstances.

The terrorists groups are the source of any loss of civil rights in the West. If the fight isnt taken to them, they will certainly bring it to us. examples not required.

Just my 2p and 2.2 eurocents worth....

Cheers

[Dubliner15]

The Sons of Glendower making a comeback perhaps?





Dub

[shoetou]

i would like to know what this has to do with Russian iron were they riding Urals or my be being chased on a Dnepr .

[Iron Mike]

The war on terror is a convienient way for governments world wide to erode our civil liberties. They know the populace at large are sheep who will gladly give these up for the illusion of saftey.

In this country the founding fathers are rolling in their graves.

[Martyn]

This " Terrorism" threat has certainly been used to foist draconian legislation on the public at large. The words in the law; " likely to stir up " and " likely to be useful to" are so wide open to abuse that it's a joke. I am not commenting on the guilt or otherwise of the case, but the laws being used certainly are a cause for concern. The voters need to stop this type of rot and stealing of basic civil liberties disguised as "terrorist legislation".

Ofcourse he is guilty, well if he is Welsh anyway...................oops

Anyway, The British Police are so closly scrutinised now that they cannot afford to arrest someone without some form of intelligence/evidence.

And my honest opinion is that if some innocent people get to spend a few nights in a cell for the greater good so be it.
I for one would not like the Police/intelligence/Military to down tools because a few do-gooders got upset. I dont believe that the law makers are trying to steal our civil rights,
but are trying to preserve them the best way they can given the circumstances.

The terrorists groups are the source of any loss of civil rights in the West. If the fight isnt taken to them, they will certainly bring it to us. examples not required.

Just my 2p and 2.2 eurocents worth....

Cheers

Hello neil,hello jules,thanks for the info,i was suprised when i mentioned it in the pub last night-nobody knew anything,some know trevor-he's basically harmless,but saying that, he's a cardiff city football supporter-they are all nuts!!
Got a little story for you:there's a gentleman and his wife,i found out,living either in glyneath,or neath-both not far away, they have his and hers ural rigs.
anyway,the bloke has a military rig complete with replica m/c gun mounted on.he goes to displays etc.one day while resting in his farmhouse,a bull-horn blares out-someone reported him for having firearms,S.O.19 surounded the place-they were fully armed,and backed up by dogs.all because he liked military vehicles.Ican't confirm if this is indeed true,but i believe it!
ride safe and free,martyn aberdare.

[Martyn]

i would like to know what this has to do with Russian iron were they riding Urals or my be being chased on a Dnepr .

Hello shoetou,just a little 'snapshot' of life in a 'third world' country,west of offa's dike.
life is funny sometimes.I have a seriously disabled friend,who lives near trevor the terrorist,i used to pick him up in a rig i used to have,take him out to
get pissed and generally have a laugh[i stayed sober till i parked up].he is too ill to ride now but he still has a good time in the local pub.
all the best,ride safe and free,merry christmas to you and yours.martyn. aberdare.

[Martyn]

The Sons of Glendower making a comeback perhaps?





Dub

Hello Dubliner15,
come home to a real fire-buy a holiday home in wales!!
ride safe and free,merry christmas to you and yours.martyn aberdare.

[Martyn]

This " Terrorism" threat has certainly been used to foist draconian legislation on the public at large. The words in the law; " likely to stir up " and " likely to be useful to" are so wide open to abuse that it's a joke. I am not commenting on the guilt or otherwise of the case, but the laws being used certainly are a cause for concern. The voters need to stop this type of rot and stealing of basic civil liberties disguised as "terrorist legislation".

Ofcourse he is guilty, well if he is Welsh anyway...................oops

Anyway, The British Police are so closly scrutinised now that they cannot afford to arrest someone without some form of intelligence/evidence.

And my honest opinion is that if some innocent people get to spend a few nights in a cell for the greater good so be it.
I for one would not like the Police/intelligence/Military to down tools because a few do-gooders got upset. I dont believe that the law makers are trying to steal our civil rights,
but are trying to preserve them the best way they can given the circumstances.

The terrorists groups are the source of any loss of civil rights in the West. If the fight isnt taken to them, they will certainly bring it to us. examples not required.

Just my 2p and 2.2 eurocents worth....

Cheers

HEE,hee!hello neil,Did you know it is still legal in hereford to kill a welshman with a bow and arrow during a certain time of day?
I came to the conclusion years ago that every one is guilty of something-untill proven innocent!the older i get the more cynical i get,i must stop it!
ride safe and free,merry christmas to you and yours.martyn aberdare.

[neil]

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HEE,hee!hello neil,Did you know it is still legal in hereford to kill a welshman with a bow and arrow during a certain time of day?
I came to the conclusion years ago that every one is guilty of something-untill proven innocent!the older i get the more cynical i get,i must stop it!
ride safe and free,merry christmas to you and yours.martyn aberdare.
[/quote]

Thats why there are never any Welshmen in Hereford. Should be quite safe now though, apart from the ASBO's, but they affect us all.......
I love Wales, second nicest county after my own, Warwickshire...

Merry Xmas

[Warthog]

And my honest opinion is that if some innocent people get to spend a few nights in a cell for the greater good so be it.

Even if it was you one day, because you happened to fit a particular demographic?

I for one would not like the Police/intelligence/Military to down tools because a few do-gooders got upset. I dont believe that the law makers are trying to steal our civil rights,
but are trying to preserve them the best way they can given the circumstances.

The terrorists groups are the source of any loss of civil rights in the West. If the fight isnt taken to them, they will certainly bring it to us. examples not required.

Personally, I think the new laws being brought in are utter arse. What better way to control your populace (whom the government should be serving, rather than oneself...).

Wanna stop terrorism? Revise foreign policies....

[Serious Black]

Sorry Nell but I don't think you know what you are talking about. British police are NOT about manufacturing evidence, I've been on the receiving end of it. My family was also on the receiving end of the intelligence services when my father was active in the Scottish National Party in the 70's. So I have a reasonable idea what they are like.

Martyn, keep eye out. I'll be interested to see what happens to Trevor the Terrorist.

[neil]

Sorry Nell but I don't think you know what you are talking about. British police are NOT about manufacturing evidence, I've been on the receiving end of it. My family was also on the receiving end of the intelligence services when my father was active in the Scottish National Party in the 70's. So I have a reasonable idea what they are like.

Martyn, keep eye out. I'll be interested to see what happens to Trevor the Terrorist.

And my honest opinion is that if some innocent people get to spend a few nights in a cell for the greater good so be it.

Even if it was you one day, because you happened to fit a particular demographic?

Hi SB and Warthog,

I can understand where both of you are coming from, but what I stated was my belief, I wasnt imposing my belief on anyone else... So IMHO

SB, what was happening in the 70's in the UK,....... IRA / Currupt police / civil disturbances / Strikes / Riots. That was 30-40 years ago. The West-Midlands police got the biggest kick up the arse when the Birmingham 6 were released in '91 due to the police's fabrication of evidence. I doubt any force in the UK would try it on again. Better training, procedures and better educated coppers!


Warthog, No I would not like to spend a few days in nick obviously, but I have faith in the Police. They are under staffed, undervalued and ridiculed but how bad would it be without them.
I wouldnt want to have soldiers or paramilitary police on the streets patrollling like some 3rd world state. seen it didnt like it.

I'm ex British Army, I have family that are coppers. I think I have an idea of whats going on, now.

Cheers,