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#1 sly-uncle

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 10:58 AM

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 02:22 PM

Why do they want to join the EU when some of the more established countries are not happy or want out?

It aint the gravy train they think it is.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:19 AM

View Postdneprlover, on 26 January 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:

Why do they want to join the EU when some of the more established countries are not happy or want out?

It aint the gravy train they think it is.

The EU must be a better bet for them than a continued close alliance with Russia.
Tough times for our Friends in the Ukraine.
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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:21 AM

It's not about a "gravy train" it's about complete independence from Russia.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:35 AM





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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:53 AM

View Postdneprlover, on 26 January 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:

Why do they want to join the EU when some of the more established countries are not happy or want out?

It aint the gravy train they think it is.

View PostRuss Noe, on 27 January 2014 - 02:19 AM, said:

View Postdneprlover, on 26 January 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:

Why do they want to join the EU when some of the more established countries are not happy or want out?

It aint the gravy train they think it is.

The EU must be a better bet for them than a continued close alliance with Russia.
Tough times for our Friends in the Ukraine.
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That's at the cummon people level, at the top there's a battle for which group of rich guys gets the Ukrainian soil resources, who gets to frack, replace corn with lilly flower, plant fields of propellor generators, mine the gold, the iron, the uranium, take monopol on railway, electric plants, gas suppliers- all the infrastructure, demolish the free medical sistem and instead fund private hospitals from state money, the amount of IMF and EU bank loans- which has to be bigger each time....give pennies to the state and cut cots on enviroment issues. Check out Rosia Montana, that's part of EU.
That's my EU Romanian experience and I guess the Eastern version is nut much worse just other masters..and no it's not the same everywhere, not when the average sallary is $500.

BTW, Ukraine's capital city is said to be magnificent , Kiev. And it's been there since 482 a.d.
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Posted 15 February 2014 - 10:56 AM

Try to find ukraine on maps  before ww1.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 03:46 AM

View Postharleych, on 15 February 2014 - 10:56 AM, said:

Try to find ukraine on maps  before ww1.
Dangerous argument. Try finding Israel pre ww1 - it exists now, however.  China is currently looking at what it considers ancient maps for territorial claims.  The nazis were fond of Tacitus' Germania.  Kurdistan has never existed....yet the Kurds are there.  Maps only show a geopolitical snapshot, a picture of empires then.  They can't show the aspirations of current nationalism.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:55 AM

While things are quiet in Kiev, not so much in the Crimea.  This is very scarey!
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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:54 AM

Crimea is quiet, and most of the problems seem to be generated by press propaganda. I have tatar neighbours and Ukrainian friends and we still enjoy a beer together and chat in the street. Most of Ukraine does not want Europe they know it is not a pot of gold, they just want a government that knows how to govern and is not intent on raping the country of all its assets. Russia is a serious option for most Crimeans, with a stable country, better wages, gas and oil cheaper and pensions 4 times the Ukraine rate, for most it would make sense.

I just want to ride bikes, sit on the beach and drink vodka. For me Ukraine or Russia it is all the same, we have a bore hole for water, solar and wind power, wood stoves and heating if we need it and a garage full of stock that is not even listed yet.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 08:39 PM

Glad you are doing well, PM sent about parts needed.
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Posted 09 March 2014 - 07:41 AM

The news-media here in the USA is making an issue about Russian- vs Ukrainian-speaking people in Ukraine.  Knowing absolutely nothing, I had always thought that the two languages were very similar and mutually understandable.  That is, someone who speaks one can at least understand the other.

It would be interesting to hear from someone in the Ukraine about that.  How about it Mr. Vostok Motorcycles?
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Posted 09 March 2014 - 12:46 PM

View Postpeter hayden, on 09 March 2014 - 07:41 AM, said:

The news-media here in the USA is making an issue about Russian- vs Ukrainian-speaking people in Ukraine.  Knowing absolutely nothing, I had always thought that the two languages were very similar and mutually understandable.[snip]
Languages can be interesting.
There are places in my own USA where I can barely understand the "English" spoken locally.
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