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Had a very weird experience the other day. A guy came up to my bike and said there was something wrong with me for riding a commie built bike and displaying the RIMC emblem on my machine.

 

I really couldn't understand him all that well, he had a fairly thick accent, a lot like my Grandfather had who was Romanian, and judging by the way he was ranting had obviously lived under communist rule at some point. I tried to explain to him that I rode the bike simply because I liked it and my choice of machinery was in no way a statement of any kind aimed at him or his people. The dude looked at me as though I were a coiled rattler.

 

I tried to explain that he should not take offense but he would have none of it. He said that the sticker should be taken off and the bike should be put in a crusher.

 

I told him that I hoped that he was enjoying his stay in my country, that I would ride whatever I liked, that the sticker was staying, and excused myself.

 

The whole thing was 180o apart from the usual reception I get from people when I roll up on the Ural. Anyone else here ever had an experience like that?

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No but I go sans the red star or hammer and sickle. Politically charged symbols are always going to pi$$ someone off no matter what they are.

 

Most likely this guy did live under an oppressive regime and the hammer and sickle be what ever it represents to you touched some deep emotion in him.

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I havent (yet) had anyone get upset over my choice of motorcycle...although a few HD owners have snidely remarked about the country of orgin, and after my Red army belt and buckle...I tell'em that I am a Cold War veteran and last time I checked, we beat the Soviets into submission through capitalism! My belt and buckle are trophies of a victory, my bike is MY CHOICE of what I am comfortable riding...I then remind them that I rode a HD back before they got respectable and all the RUBs got one.

 

My dads family hailed from what is now the Republic of Slovakia, and we are ethnic Germans. In 1944, my family had to flee their home as the front closed in on them...and partisan violence against Germans escalated (ethnic cleansing). My family fled to Austria, but unfortunately it ended up to be the Russian zone of occupation...So, my father and grandparents got to exist under Communist rule for 4 years, until they were sponsored as emmigrants to the US.

 

My father admires my Ural, and doesnt feel its being a product of Russia is a cause for concern. He has no good memories of life under Soviet rule...at age 15 he was very nearly picked up in a forced labor sweep of able bodied people needed in the "Motherland" for work. Had he been abducted...I doubt he would have had the life he has now...nor would he be a citizen of the greatest nation on earth!

 

Riding a Ural or Dneipr speaks volumes as to what character one may aspire to in seeking the road less traveled...it is after all right now, very "in" to own a HD and be a member of the pack...I'll stick with being different.

 

As for displaying the hammer and sickle?...Why not, this is still America after all! The PC pukes are the most mediocre bunch of whining sops there is...get offended easily?...GET A LIFE! Sympathy is in the dictionary right between Sh*t and Syphillis..right where it belongs.

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Had a very weird experience the other day. A guy came up to my bike and said there was something wrong with me for riding a commie built bike and displaying the RIMC emblem on my machine.

 

I really couldn't understand him all that well, he had a fairly thick accent, a lot like my Grandfather had who was Romanian, and judging by the way he was ranting had obviously lived under communist rule at some point. I tried to explain to him that I rode the bike simply because I liked it and my choice of machinery was in no way a statement of any kind aimed at him or his people. The dude looked at me as though I were a coiled rattler.

 

I tried to explain that he should not take offense but he would have none of it. He said that the sticker should be taken off and the bike should be put in a crusher.

 

I told him that I hoped that he was enjoying his stay in my country, that I would ride whatever I liked, that the sticker was staying, and excused myself.

 

The whole thing was 180o apart from the usual reception I get from people when I roll up on the Ural. Anyone else here ever had an experience like that?

no,i dont get that kind of responce at all with my ural ...............re-badged

plus it saves the time and trouble of explaing the history lessons and prononciation of the (oorawl)ural marque and machine that was reversed enginnered and copied by the russians back in 1940, i guess some people would be upset and angry if i had an R-71 BMW miltary version of the WWII model with iron crosses on it or worse,so i am almost politically correct but not totally RIMC correct

 

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No but I go sans the red star or hammer and sickle. Politically charged symbols are always going to pi$$ someone off no matter what they are.

 

Most likely this guy did live under an oppressive regime and the hammer and sickle be what ever it represents to you touched some deep emotion in him.

 

Mike,

 

I think you are right about the "politically charged symbols", I guess it is the same thing that the southerners get when displaying the stars and bars on plates for their cars etc.. My old man had a confederate flag when I was a kid, I don't remember him getting any greif over it. FF to today, not a wise choice of plate for the vehicle.

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You're not a commie rat man. You're just excercising your freedon to choose what you want to ride!

 

Nice that you handled the guy in an understanding way. Good on you for that.

 

Now HERE is a commie rat. The little bugger has been raiding my bird feeders and scaring the birds off. I took him out yesterday with my commie (Chinese) pellet rifle at 40' shooting off hand with no rest over iron sights. Not bad huh? I enjoyed the irony of it.

 

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He won't be filling his socialist "needs" in my yard anymore.

 

For those of you who think this is just horrible.... Setting traps out there would probably have caught a innocent squirrel or bird. I didn't want that. Pets can get into poisoned bait. So an accurate plinker (.177 spring air pellet rifle) was a good solution. It didn't suffer either.

 

I hate real Commie Rats! Danged Vermin!

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When I lived in Sacramento, I taught in an elementery school that had quite a few children of Ukrainian imigrants. I did get a lot of comments, but they were more along the line of "why would you ride that, you have nice Honda's and BMW's to choose from?", or "I can't believe anyone would bother to bring one all the way from Russia!" They would stare for a while, smile, then buckle their kids into a minivan and drive off.

The only unpleasant exchange came from a guy that called me a liar and stormed off because he wouldn't believe my bike was made in 1994.

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You're not a commie rat man. You're just excercising your freedon to choose what you want to ride!

 

Nice that you handled the guy in an understanding way. Good on you for that.

 

Now HERE is a commie rat. The little bugger has been raiding my bird feeders and scaring the birds off. I took him out yesterday with my commie (Chinese) pellet rifle at 40' shooting off hand with no rest over iron sights. Not bad huh? I enjoyed the irony of it.

 

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He won't be filling his socialist "needs" in my yard anymore.

 

For those of you who think this is just horrible.... Setting traps out there would probably have caught a innocent squirrel or bird. I didn't want that. Pets can get into poisoned bait. So an accurate plinker (.177 spring air pellet rifle) was a good solution. It didn't suffer either.

 

I hate real Commie Rats! Danged Vermin!

 

Rich,

 

That is one hell of a shot for a .177 at 40'! A pellet that small can get real squirrely even in that short of a distance. Kudos!

 

And yes that is definitely the way to go if you can make the shot. I am out on the poison too, been more than one dog or cat die after a meal of Decon'd rat. Good shootin Dude.

 

Ride safe

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This type of thread came up awhile ago when an elderly gentleman said to a Ural owner that whenever he heard the sound of this type of motorcycle (most likely a BMW) he had a family member or a friend taken away by the Nazi's. History can't be changed and people have both good and bad memories, but..... to get pissed off at someone for political symbols, it's just going to happen. You can't please everyone and you have to live your own lives. Unfortunately there were and there continues to be evil in the world. What we have to try to do for ourselves is to learn from the past and try in general just to learn something everyday. I think if I ever get that type of UDF I would say, " This is a product introduced to the west after winning the cold war, the Iron curtain has fallen and the USSR came to the conclusion that our way of life is better for them." If we got pissed off at people for certain products they make from certain countries we wouldn't have many choices of cars to drive nor TV's and other electronic stuff to play with. The human race has to move forward and God willing live together in peace.... But I must say, these bikes do attract attention. So be careful out there.....

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Tell them it's a trophy bike from the cold war. That's the way I viewed my Tourist when I first got it.

 

Last january when I was working the Ural booth at the New York Javits Center I was wearing a Soviet tankers parade hat. I had a guy approached out of the croud and tell me I had a lot of nerve wearing that murder's hat. I told him there was no Soviet Union any more and he said "Thank God for that." and left. I don't think he wanted to start a sceine and I was being swamped with questions at the time.

 

A few years ago I was working the Javits Center show. I did not have my Russian Iron "colors" yet. I was in costume for the show; leather vest with pins, Ural t shirt, ushanka, grey surplus jodfries, high East German officer boots. A big black guy twice my size came up to me and said "Are you a nazi?" The booth went silent. I looked him straight in the eye and said "NO I'M A COMMUNIST!" He laughed it off and said "Well at least you guys won."

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Howdy!

 

>>>You're not a commie rat man. You're just excercising your freedon to choose what you want to ride!

 

Nice that you handled the guy in an understanding way. Good on you for that.<<<

 

Never encountered a reaction like that, but I'm sure I would if I still lived in Chicago. With all the Poles, Lithuanians, Checz, etc. down there, I'm sure SOMEBODY would see fit to not put tongue firmly into cheek about the RIMC colors.

 

That's one nice thing about Mad City, Wisconsin... politically, ANYTHING goes! We have a chapter of the Young Sparticus League on campus (wannabe Marxists; fairly common among first semester freshemen, and besides being slightly big of mouth, completely harmless), and the IWW has a local here too; in fact, I'm a MEMBER, and thier patch is on my vest. Good guys to have a beer with, and they support women's Roller Derby too, so they're OK in MY book! :feelssogood:

 

 

 

>>>Now HERE is a commie rat. The little bugger has been raiding my bird feeders and scaring the birds off. I took him out yesterday with my commie (Chinese) pellet rifle at 40' shooting off hand with no rest over iron sights. Not bad huh? I enjoyed the irony of it. <<<

 

 

Nice shootin' Pard... I've been using MY ChiCom air rifle to thin out the rabbit population around here. The necessity of that became clear after Arby decided he needed a new toy... and managed to bring a LIVE rabbit in the house and release it to chase and play with! :beerchug: It took a $40.00 live trap to catch the little bugger and take him back outside... and Arby hasn't forgiven me yet!

 

 

>>>He won't be filling his socialist "needs" in my yard anymore.<<<

 

For future reference... when baiting a rabbit trap, lettuce, carrots, and apples work GREAT. But rabbits just plain HATE brocolli! They'll just scatter it all over the trap as if the brocolli is an insult to them.

 

 

>>>For those of you who think this is just horrible.... Setting traps out there would probably have caught a innocent squirrel or bird. I didn't want that. Pets can get into poisoned bait. So an accurate plinker (.177 spring air pellet rifle) was a good solution. It didn't suffer either.<<<

 

ALSO for future reference... a .177 pellet will dispatch a rabbit pretty quickly and mercifully if you do a bullseye on his eye at any range up to about 100 feet.

 

 

 

GAVNO

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Last january when I was working the Ural booth at the New York Javits Center I was wearing a Soviet tankers parade hat. I had a guy approached out of the croud and tell me I had a lot of nerve wearing that murder's hat. I told him there was no Soviet Union any more and he said "Thank God for that." and left. I don't think he wanted to start a sceine and I was being swamped with questions at the time.

 

You just reminded me of a reaction that I DID get some years ago, long before I owned a Ural.

 

It was a cold Wisconsin winter, and I was wearing my "Red Oktober Hat" (as the Old Lady calls it), a black fur Ushanka with a Soviet Navy device on the front.

 

I was coming home from work and stopped at the local Stop & Rob at 1:30 AM for some gas.

 

The guy behind the counter's eyes lit up and he looked at me with what I can only call pure hate.

 

"WHY you wear murderer's hat?" he demanded with a thick accent. "Back home I shoot at people wearing hat like that!".

 

Turns out he was from Afghanistan.

 

I told him I thought it was a cool hat, and quite practical for the cold, snowy weather. Besides, the Soviet Union no longer existed.

 

That seems to have calmed him down a good bit... I explained to him that I bought the hat, and here in America I was free to wear it if I wanted to.

 

We agreed to disagree... and I found a different all night Stop & Rob for late night stops.

 

 

 

GAVNO

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I think the emblem generated that sort of reaction. In may countries in Europe -also here in Hungary- it is called "forbidden despotic symbol". By the Hungarian law the swastika, arrowed-cross (the symbol of Hungarian Nazi Party from the IIWW era), SS-rune, sickle & hammer, and the red-star are frobidden despotic symbols. If you display them openly, you will be punished. The exception is as follows: "Can not be punished who is displaying the above mentioned symbols because of educational, sciential, artistical purpose and/or using them as a reference of the contemporary events." This exception permit e.g. the reenactments.

 

Evenso, the situation is a little bit more different. If you are using a red-star or a sickle & hammer, likely you only will cause some situation like yours. But if you do this with the rest, you surely will be arrested nearly immediatelly (despite to the people it is not meaning less or more, but for the political control it is.). But by the law, there are no differences.

 

So I'm not using any symbols on my bike. The stereotype of a sidecar-rig is a Germany IIWW motor. Many people are thinking, that this is original IIWW German bike. Once I was fueling up the bike, a man came with a big grin and said: "Hitler, would be very proud.". I said I could scarcely beleive that, because this is a Russian Ural. He was very surprised. :feelssogood:

 

Then I was on my way with my friend in the sidecar. His mother was waiting to cross the street on the pedestrian crossing. Also some other people were there. We was waving to her, she also recognised us. The next time we met, she told us, that there was a man, saying with a biting style: "We will soon hear the Nazi boots marching.". My friend's mother said, that this wasn't a German bike, but a Russian Ural. The man was destroyed. :beerchug:

 

So, don't pay any attention to those people. This is the 0.0001 % of the reaction to a beautiful Ural or any othe historical vehicle. There are many who can not understand, that history is the past. They are overreacting every little thing they think it is connected to the history and they can cling to. They'll never understand why are we riding vintage bikes or new Urals. I can just regret them because of their narrowness, and ride away.

 

 

Had a very weird experience the other day. A guy came up to my bike and said there was something wrong with me for riding a commie built bike and displaying the RIMC emblem on my machine.

 

I really couldn't understand him all that well, he had a fairly thick accent, a lot like my Grandfather had who was Romanian, and judging by the way he was ranting had obviously lived under communist rule at some point. I tried to explain to him that I rode the bike simply because I liked it and my choice of machinery was in no way a statement of any kind aimed at him or his people. The dude looked at me as though I were a coiled rattler.

 

I tried to explain that he should not take offense but he would have none of it. He said that the sticker should be taken off and the bike should be put in a crusher.

 

I told him that I hoped that he was enjoying his stay in my country, that I would ride whatever I liked, that the sticker was staying, and excused myself.

 

The whole thing was 180o apart from the usual reception I get from people when I roll up on the Ural. Anyone else here ever had an experience like that?

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