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  1. 1. Ron Paul for President of the U.S. of A?

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Free Jack Boots & red arm bands for all Americans of Ron Paul is elected.

 

You are trying to make some kind of Nazi reference ?

 

I don't see the connection. maybe you could explain it for us?

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I emailed him via his website with some specific questions. Apparently they don't care if I vote for him or not since they haven't answered in several weeks now and our primary is over.

 

Politicians still don't know what to do with email. A phone call or a hand written letter, yeah, but email is still a mystery. It's very likely they haven't properly sorted it yet. Or they mistakenly threw it out with the spam. Or they have gotten so much they haven't been able to get through it all. Or they considered your question inflammatory and disregarded the email as not being legitimate (I hope this isn't the case).

 

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Free Jack Boots & red arm bands for all Americans of Ron Paul is elected.

 

You are trying to make some kind of Nazi reference ?

 

I don't see the connection. maybe you could explain it for us?

Ahhh ok well for starters here is a pic of Ron Paul with Neo-Nazi head-henchman Don Black over Christmas.

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Heck...I could walk up and get a picture with the Congressman...that does not mean he knows me or anything about me.

 

Here in America...Communists, Socialists, Greens and Nazis...to mention just a few...do have the right and privilege to participate in elections and vote as American citizens. They can support who they please for whatever reason. Might be an ugly thought to some...but that is partly what America is about.

 

I doubt even if Ron Paul knows who the guy is he'd denounce him or return his contribution...that's not how Mr. Paul thinks. If Mr. Black is a citizen who can legally contribute money or endorse a candidate...it is he's right...Paul may not agree with him, but is isn't going to tell him what he can say or do either unless he misrepresents Paul or does something illegal...like try to overthrow the Dominican Republic (Ron Paul is a Non-Interventionist, which is not an Isolationist by the way).

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Good points, Bill. That's been the impression I've had of Ron Paul, too (the not denouncing or returning the contribution). It seems that a lot of people seem to believe he's a white supremist. I'll have to research it some more before I form an opinion (words are far too often misinterpreted).

 

So...was your last comment intended to have some humor or did you not realize that Don Black was actually arrested for trying to invade another country (Dominica)?

 

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Free Jack Boots & red arm bands for all Americans of Ron Paul is elected.

 

You are trying to make some kind of Nazi reference ?

 

I don't see the connection. maybe you could explain it for us?

Ahhh ok well for starters here is a pic of Ron Paul with Neo-Nazi head-henchman Don Black over Christmas.

 

If you think that a photo of someone standing next to the candidate is evidence of the candidate sharing his views, How do you rationalize all the other photos of people standing next to him?

 

Is his ideology somehow divided up by the ideology of everyone who comes to a caucus or convention and stands next to him ? He is s sponge ?

 

Nothing Ron Paul says or has done supports any White power/Neo-Nazi Ideals. but even neo-nazis enjoy their freedom in this country and wish to preserve it from coorporations, bankers ,globalists and other greedy tyrants.

 

this slander attempt is absurd, even the mainstream media has given up on the racist accusation because it is so baseless.

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"this slander attempt is absurd, even the mainstream media has given up on the racist accusation because it is so baseless."

 

Yeah, so now they've resorted to denying him entry to the debates, editing him from televised debates he participated in and otherwise ignoring him in the media even when he pulls more votes than Thompson and Guliani in primaries...you gotta love the "machine".

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As far as you trust Wikipedia, it was Dominica, Bill. You may have gotten it confused, but at least you remembered the event. I didn't. Out of respect for you, I won't say why I didn't remember. :ninja: Was nice meeting you when I happened through Florida last month, by the way. Despite you trying to take my picture.

 

Isenhelm, I wouldn't call it slander. Technically it's the written word, so it's libel. :closedeyes: Seriously, though, I'd like to see if sources can be cited that can substantiate the name calling. If there can be, then it's neither slander nor libel. From the sources I've found so far, I think it's mostly a misinterpretation of what he said/wrote, which makes it opinion and not necessarily either slander or libel. It seems (and this is presented as opinion, not necessarily fact) that in the PC world in which we live any Caucasian individual who expresses anything negative about another race is immediately branded a racist. The quotes I've found so far seem to be taken out of context and reference statistics that, although perhaps caused by racial bias or pure racism, could easily be proved or disproved if someone chose to do the research.

 

Too bad he's not married to someone like Mrs. Kucinich. Then he could participate in the debates and they'd just do what they do with Dennis and every time he speaks focus the camera on his wife. :laugh:

 

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"this slander attempt is absurd, even the mainstream media has given up on the racist accusation because it is so baseless."

 

Yeah, so now they've resorted to denying him entry to the debates, editing him from televised debates he participated in and otherwise ignoring him in the media even when he pulls more votes than Thompson and Guliani in primaries...you gotta love the "machine".

 

The funny thing is how OBVIOUS it is, however that is also the Horror. do we as a nation/people really expect to just turn on the tv and have the truths conveniently directed to our ears and eyes??? are we that trusting and naive?

this hand basket is getting mighty warm.

 

you can see the debates on youtube including the parts with Ron Paul. he gets asked a lot of loaded questions but comes out of them knocking a little sense into the otherwise generic punch line debate.

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Isenhelm, I wouldn't call it slander. Technically it's the written word, so it's libel. :closedeyes: Seriously, though, I'd like to see if sources can be cited that can substantiate the name calling. If there can be, then it's neither slander nor libel. From the sources I've found so far, I think it's mostly a misinterpretation of what he said/wrote, which makes it opinion and not necessarily either slander or libel. It seems (and this is presented as opinion, not necessarily fact) that in the PC world in which we live any Caucasian individual who expresses anything negative about another race is immediately branded a racist. The quotes I've found so far seem to be taken out of context and reference statistics that, although perhaps caused by racial bias or pure racism, could easily be proved or disproved if someone chose to do the research.

 

Too bad he's not married to someone like Mrs. Kucinich. Then he could participate in the debates and they'd just do what they do with Dennis and every time he speaks focus the camera on his wife. :ninja:

 

Micheal

 

How about Smear Campaign ?

No reports of of any endorsements except when it is a racist, stripper or brothel owner.

Banned from debates.

mentioned as the underdog, the dark horse, unelectable, etc... when mentioned at all.

 

As much as everyone loves to mention the troops, maybe they could mention how Ron Paul gets more support from the troops than do they others...

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its tied up as of this post, 7 to 7

 

I emailed him via his website with some specific questions. Apparently they don't care if I vote for him or not since they haven't answered in several weeks now and our primary is over.

 

Its not customer support, they are not selling you something.

 

Nobody is looking out for your best interests. You are supposed to be the one who cares who you vote for or not.

Waiting around for replies and missing the primary seems very passive or just un-interested.

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Ah, the presidential election.... The season of Bread and Circuses is in full swing, and the sweet smell of B.S. is in the air!!

 

Every four years, we Americans, put on display for the whole world to see just how ignorant we are of the workings of our own political system.

 

Every time I turn on the TV or radio... or open a newspaper or magazine, I'm assulted by candidates from BOTH parties making their campaign promises. End the war! Lower taxes! Close the borders! Free health care! Blah! Blah! Blah! Is it that these candidates are really this ignorant of what the job of president encompasses and unknowingly make these promises that are beyond the reach of the president.... or is this just a willful deception put on for the rubes?

 

Let's take Ron Paul, Hillery, Obama and Edwards for example. All are, or have been members of congress. All are promising to do as president things that are not within the powers of the president, but ARE within the powers of congress. All, as president, promise to make changes that only C*O*N*G*R*E*S*S* has the power to do. Why, pray tell, did these people not make these changes while members of congress? As members of congress they have the power, collectively, to make these changes. As president, they would not.

 

Let's see..... end the war? Only congress, or more specificly the senate has the power to declare war. Not the president. Only congress has the power to un-declare war. These people are members of congress. They have the power, as members of congress to do this. Why don't they? Lower taxes? The president doesn't write tax law... the congress does. Close the borders? I supose it could be done by the president with unpaid volunteers and donated equipment. Otherwise, only congress can approve the funding. Ditto free healthcare. The president is limited by his salary as to what he can fund. Congress has the treasury at it's disposal. To me, making promises that you don't have the power to deliver in order to get elected is dishonest. Beliveving that the people will believe you is insulting.... but unfortunately true.

 

I think I should run for president.... "if elected, I promise everone a new URAL! On the day following the election, just go down to your local URAL dealer and claim the model of your choice- and thanks for voting for me! Thank you." :closedeyes:

 

This concludes our Civics and Government studies lesson for today.

 

By the way- so far, the only candidate I've seen so far who is actually citing the constitution in regards to his campaign promises is Thompson.

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