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This has little to do about Urals in particular ,but since a lot of Canadians look at bikes and parts with some envy,offered on E Bay or forums such as this one,a word of caution.

In 2000 I was searching for a Ural having owned one in the early/late seventies.

I was unable to import one legally because of Transport Canada Regulations.I was approached by a seller in Toronto about getting a Dnepr.

After much discussion I forked out almost $5,000 only to get taken to the cleaners.In my legal pursuits I find out this person had no right to sell theses bikes as they were in Canada for "Export Purpose" only.

I ended up losing my money and any hope of retrieving any as the individual moved out of Canada to somewhere near Cleveland.

I ended up buying an Enfield ,putting on two different sidecars ,and started a six year love/hate relationship which ended this year.

During that time I made some 200 purchases on E Bay to get parts as the bike was as unreliable as a bike could be.

I lost $400 US on a deal for a frame, finding out that it was illegal to import a frame that was from a current manufacturer that was not on Canada's approved motorcycle manufactures list.

My frame was seized and I lost my money.

Recently (last May) I bought an incredible BMW R 100RS with a Motorvation Royalle sidecar.Not content with the bike as is I came upon an equally incredible new old stock Turbo charging kit .Complete and ready to install.The bidding went wild and I foolishly got caught up in the madness and won my auction in the last 7 seconds with the final price well over $2000.00.

Yeah kick me a good one I deserve it.

Anyways the item was shipped from Antonio Texas on Sept 19 via Fed Ex.On Sept 27 it was returned to the seller because it did not have the proper paper work .Yesterday I got this from Fed Ex:

 

Well it isn't going to be delivered any time soon.Got a call from FedEx today from their Manitoba office telling me it is considered undeliverable for the following reasons:

Had it been a normal E Bay auction ending at under $1,600.00 it would have been considered:

 

Low Value Entries (LVS) for commodities valued at $1,599.99 CAD or less; these types of shipments are generally automatically released through Canada Customs, the presentation of the entry and accounting for the duty and tax are submitted later. In order to account for the shipments a minimum of documentation is usually required. A manifest could be sufficient as long as it fully describe the goods and values, however it is always best to send some sort of commercial invoice that fully describes the commodities in the shipment, their values and origin, so that the duties/taxes will be assessed correctly.

But because the auction was more than $1,600.00 then it is considered:

 

High Value Entries (HVS) for commodities valued at $1,600.00 or more; these types of shipments must be released through a more formal process, and this could result in delays. HVS shipments require the following documentation:

Manifest, Bill of Lading, Air Waybill or A8A (The carrier's notification document)

Canada Customs invoice form CI1 (CCI) or Commercial Invoice or Pro Forma Invoice that provide all data requirements as shown on the CCI;

Packing lists, if appropriate;

Any other documents necessary to determine merchandise admissibility, such as Import Permits, Export Permits, Form A, NAFTA, CIFTA, CCFTA certificate of origin forms.

 

> .all the new paprework was in there

Customs is saying now it is not all there:

> and the driver said that it should be good to go...they had the same tracking info...

They want to return it again.If this happens We no longer want it and we will have to come to some kind of arrangement, such as coming to some financial arrangement for shipping costs.

 

So the seller says it not his problem and I'm out of luck.So have I lost $2,013 US?.Who now gets the kit? Before you ever look at anything coming across the border make absolutely sure you have your P's and Q's in order or you'll loose just like I did.Just think if I would have tried to buy Miss Mona?

Just a warning Free trade does not exist.

Rejean

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Rejean,

 

(01.) The Free Trade in NAFTA refers only to the duties due, not the accompanying paperwork. If you ever extract the cargo from the morass you describe you will find that none of the money you paid is for Customs Duties. The rate of duty is FREE on Canadian origiating cargo coming to the US and US originating cargo going to Canada. The Customs entry requirements, still in force on both sides of the border, have not changed significantly since Chaucer was the Collector of HM Customs.

 

(02.) Never trust FedEx, any importing carrier or any shipper to tell you why Customs will not release the cargo. Ask Customs. Trust me. Don't ask how I know.

 

(03.) If you have trouble extracting cargo from an importing carrier, FedEx on this case, or from Customs, contact a CustomHouse Broker. They are listed in the yellow pages of the phone book. ChBs are experts at navigating the bureaucratic mazes that shippers, importing carriers and government entities build. This is especially true for Commercial Shipments into the US and HV Shipments into Canada. ChBs charge a hefty fee for their services but can save a great deal of heartburn on your part.

 

Macdonald

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Just a thought::

 

Smuggling is considered a serious crime in both the US, and Canada, and as there is a Canadian customs guy, and an American customs guy in this club, you may wish to make smuggling suggestions by email.

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03.) If you have trouble extracting cargo from an importing carrier, FedEx on this case, or from Customs, contact a CustomHouse Broker.

 

I did just that.Cost me an additional $300.00.

 

Where in Canada are you located?

In Western canada where freedom actually means something as opposed to (better not complete this phrase lest I have my hands slapped.)

 

Smuggling is considered a serious crime in both the US, and Canada, and as there is a Canadian customs guy, and an American customs guy in this club, you may wish to make smuggling suggestions by email.

 

I tried to do what was legal and right.It is the idiots in government (Transport Canada for one)(Customs another) that create the bureaucratic mazes that shippers, importing carriers and common citizens must manouver around.Now I have to pay a third party ,and a fourth party and a fifth party etc.Customs officers are just glorified tax collectors for what ever government happens to be in power.If they were more than that we would actually allow them to have guns so they don't have to run and hide and wait for the local police to show up and take some kind of action.This is what it is like in Canada.Now I expect CSIS to show up at my door.(Canadian version of the CIA)

 

ChBs charge a hefty fee for their services but can save a great deal of heartburn on your part.

Did I mention $300.00?Boy do I have heart burn now...

Beemerwhacked

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I'm afraid it's too late to take back the comments on smuggling. The black Suburban's are on their way to your homes even as we speak!

Listen closely. You can hear the beat of the rotors from the black helicopters too! Just make sure your foil hats are on tight. :surprise: :lol:

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Maybe it is time you considered moving to a free country. :D Canada is nice but it is no place I would want to live, To much snow and socialism.

Yeah, and it really sucks being able to sleep with both eyes closed all night.

 

Face it, we're bigger than you and we're on top. If we were in prison, you'd be our bitch. :P

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