Cpt Monster Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Ok....so I have a new 2007 Patrol...this is intended to replace the 1995 Sportsman I have been in a Hate/Love/Beg type relationship with for the last few years.... It was AMAZING....turn key, push button...and away we go YEAH!until....sigh...until today. I fear the Electrical Gremlins have found me...they always find me. Every bike/rig I have owned for the last 15 years at some point the stock loom just....decides Nope. So here is the deal...I rode it around in the cold (and snow) up here in Chicagoland for the last month or so...never an issue.Sunday, me and the fam went on a rousing ride...rig was awesome. Got home...parked it in the garage...worked a couple of days so no riding, then today had a break and some sunshine went out to the rig...and...NOPE. Turning the key gets me all the running lights, headlight(both beams), horn, turn signals and the neutral and Alt light( if I engage the kill switch, the ALT light goes out.). Hit the starter button...nothing. No click...no grind...just...nothing. Lights don't even dim. Kicker also brings no joy. I checked the fuses in the tree, and they SEEM ok...but I then realize I have no idea what fuses goes to what system. Or what they are supposed to be rated at...The 'Owners Manual' that came with the rig acknowledges there ARE fuses...and notes their location. But that is the end of the data. No amps...and certainly no indication of what fuses covers what system.I am looking for a good Service Manual for a 2007 that has a readable wiring diagram, so if anyone has a link that works feel free to post it. I SUSPECT in no particular order:1) The Keyed Ignition is not making good connection, and not pushing power around correctly.2) The Starter and/or Kill Switch are not pushing or grounding correctly.3) The coil is not getting power. (Although why that would stop the starter...and doesn't the ALT light mean the coil is drawing?)4) It is mad at me...and is waiting for me to apologize. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Monster Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Another thought....Does the 2007 have a starter relay?Man I need a wiring diagram... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Monster Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Is the 2007 diagram the same as the 2006?http://cvkustoms.com/PDF/Russian_Headlight_Cavity_Part_XII_Modern_Urals.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B. Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Same diagram, there are a couple of errors in it but it's pretty good. There are two relays right behind the left side cover. One is headlight and one is starter, swap them and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Monster Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Ok...so funny story.I guess I am conditioned to ASSUME THE WORST.If something happens...it must be catastrophic. I pulled the left side cover...and a relay fell on my foot."Hmmm" says I. Plugged it back in...and we are off to the races.Both that relay and what I assume is the headlight one are now zip-tied in place. Once again...I am useful as a bad example... Pardon my dumb-assery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racepres Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 If it is salty where you are Riding, like it is Here...You are gonna have wiring problems...soon. Start at the grounds when Spring comes...remove/clean/replace.Or you are Guaranteed "electrical problems" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Blosser Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 And use dielectric grease on all the connections, this saves a lot of headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilge Keel Dave Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Regarding dielectric grease; put it over the connection, to keep it from corroding, not in the connection. Dielectric grease is an electrical insulator and will interfere with the actual electrical conductivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B. Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Never question an easy fix. But the relay doesn't affect the kickstart, time to give that bike a tune up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Monster Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yeah...it was around 22(f), and I was less than patient with it trying to kick it.There was a lil rage stomping...pretty sure it flooded.When it DID start...a whole bunch of backfires and popping for a bit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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