luca.stere Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Comrades, I have succed to build an electronic ignition with good quality parts. I was inspired by the electronic ignition from BMW R65, sensor hall and CDI, mounted on parts designed by me: Parts mounted: This was the first test, just to test the functionality of the selected parts: After that the real tests: 1. 2. 3. 4. Soon, it will be ready for sale and you will forget about the ignition problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzidude Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luca.stere Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 For 12 volts SV engine: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luca.stere Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 A presentation for all the version of the electronic ignitions: ElectroIgnition M101.doc ElectroIgnition M102.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luca.stere Posted April 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 And presentation for Ural 650 OHV engines: ElectroIgnition M103.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dniprorider Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 nice work, luca.stere. I used to have such an ignition a few years ago. It's very reliable and easy-to-create and fix. Yet, now I prefer to use the ignition system with a microprocessing unit, because it makes the engine run better (it automatically modifies the sparking angle according to the RPM) and it costs only $45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racepres Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 nice work, luca.stere. I used to have such an ignition a few years ago. It's very reliable and easy-to-create and fix. Yet, now I prefer to use the ignition system with a microprocessing unit, because it makes the engine run better (it automatically modifies the sparking angle according to the RPM) and it costs only $45 And where did you get this $45 iggy???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luca.stere Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 nice work, luca.stere. Thank you! Yet, now I prefer to use the ignition system with a microprocessing unit, because it makes the engine run better (it automatically modifies the sparking angle according to the RPM) and it costs only $45 The russian/ukrainian ignition kit does not have an automatic advance, two guys from Romania have measured with some electronic devices and they told me there is no electronic advance. I am trying now to build another type of ignition with parts from scooters wich are cheaper, reliable enough and with electronic advance. But at 45$ it is impossible for me to build a good electronic ignition kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dniprorider Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 And where did you get this $45 iggy???? It's produced in Ukraine and I buy it from a local dealer. Here is the description and a few photos of this ignition. The russian/ukrainian ignition kit does not have an automatic advance, two guys from Romania have measured with some electronic devices and they told me there is no electronic advance. I am trying now to build another type of ignition with parts from scooters wich are cheaper, reliable enough and with electronic advance. But at 45$ it is impossible for me to build a good electronic ignition kit. Perhaps you are talking about a standard electronic ignition, which is marked as 135.XXXX, while the electronic ignition with a microprocessing unit is marked 1135.XXXX I'm sure you will succeed with your ignition project, it should not be too pricey. if I'm not mistaken, for an electronic ignition without automated advance you will need only a commutator and hall effect sensor. As for using electronic advance from a scooter, there chances are it won't be suitable for your needs, because Dnipro and Ural motorcycles need other advance than scooters do (I might mess the terms, I'm not a native speaker, sorry for that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racepres Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 ^^ Is the advance curve that much different??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dniprorider Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Not much, but they do influence the performance. If we are talking about maximum efficiency the advance curve should be created specifically for the engine it will be used at. I'm not saying a Dnipro engine won't work with the scooter curve, but if you want to get best out of the engine (and I suppose you do want this, otherwise you can use a simple electronic ignition system without any advance at all) you need to use the right advance curve. FYI, in Ukraine we have 2 different producers of microprocessing ignition systems. The 2nd ignition unit is more sophisticated and costs about twice as much as the previously mentioned one. In addition to the huge price (we consider it high because an average salary in Ukraine is about $200-$300), it offers a number of useful features and one of the features is the ability to use one of 3 predefined riding modes. With a click of a button you can switch between 1. fuel economy 2. maximum speed 3. something in the middle between the first and second options. The only difference between the riding modes are in the advance curves and you do feel this difference when switching from one mode to another. A friend of mine bought such an ignition system for his Izh Planeta Sport and I had a chance to try it. At first I was riding in the first mode, which my friend uses as a default one, but then I switched to the maximum speed mode and I did feel a slight increase in the dynamics of the bike. I'm not saying that the bike became much faster, not at all, but switching between the modes influenced the performance. I even bought such an ignition for my second Dnipro, but haven't installed it yet. Perhaps, the effect will be more or less visible on the Dnipro engine, than on the Izh engine, I will find this out only when I finally install it (I guess it will be in winter, because I prefer to spend summer riding and not fixing/tuning). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racepres Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 ^^ Good information...thanks. I would be likely to be Happy with an Ignition utilizing a curve much like the Mechanical unit..I know it is Light Switch like, but, My MT-!! Works real well with it [and Points] only concern is it will wear, and I don't know if I would want another like it.I guess I'm saying,don't give me Much "curve"...give me advance at a Fairly low RPM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petesav Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I have been running one of these for some while now ,it is great .Regards Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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