Vance Blosser Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I didn't go big enough on the picture. That's definitely different than the Type 3 setup I had on my 2000 Tourist, it had 2 wires to two separate pads. Sorry about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PazyrykTheGreat Posted February 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 So it's been a little bit. I was able to resolve the electrical issue at the moment, but now I have a new issue. There were 2 missing bolts on the final drive, one was stripped when I ordered the drive and one snapped. So I had to do something I never wanted to do which was to disassemble the final drive and deal with the dreaded loose pin bearings and rollers. I actually managed to extract the snapped bolt and re-thread the stripped hole with a helicoil kit. But in the reassembly it looks like I wasn't able to seat the rollers properly which resulted in the drive housing cracking open like an egg. So it looks like I'm in the market for another final drive, again. I'm having trouble finding a replacement part. I can find a few 1WD ones for around $200 but I would like to find a 2WD model since I take the motorcycle off road. The only ones I've managed to find are on Arbalet for $390 (preorder) and on Old Timer Garage for over a grand. If anyone here has any leads for a replacement for a reasonable price would help me out a lot. Thanks.    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Blosser Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 In case you are faced with the rollers again, a trick that works well on Urals is to smear the area and rollers with grease. This holds them in place for assembly and washes off in the 90 wt gear oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PazyrykTheGreat Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 So I'm trying to reassemble this final drive but I'm facing the same problem as last time in that I can't get it back together. Every time I try to insert the gear tower in the rollers keep falling off and it won't seat properly no matter how much grease is use to stick them on or how perfectly the rollers are aligned along the ring. Is there some sort of magic trick or technique to getting the rollers to stay put? I've tried multiple times and this is immensely frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Goldthorpe Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 I used some EP2 grease. Orange and sticky as anything. Stringy too so it got everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luca.stere Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 So I'm trying to reassemble this final drive but I'm facing the same problem as last time in that I can't get it back together. Every time I try to insert the gear tower in the rollers keep falling off and it won't seat properly no matter how much grease is use to stick them on or how perfectly the rollers are aligned along the ring. Is there some sort of magic trick or technique to getting the rollers to stay put? I've tried multiple times and this is immensely frustrating. You have changed the rollers or the tower? If you have change it it may not be the correct dimension, it happened to me ones on an Ural rear drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PazyrykTheGreat Posted May 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 I tried sticking the rollers on with grease and freezing it but I still can't get the gear tower seated without knocking the rollers off. But after looking at how these two cracks have formed in the unit I am now thinking that this part is unserviceable. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussN Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 I'd agree and say it's time for replacement. The material alloy appears bad. Too hard.RussN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmb Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 Dude everything is bad i can't believe my eyes. It's amazing that everything is crap [FUBAR], i know these are not the best but you should done soon i hope so. maybe a 70's bmw drive train might solve your problems if your at whits end. remember these were made to last 20 min in battle. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PazyrykTheGreat Posted June 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 So I guess I'm in the market for another final drive, again. Unfortunately it looks like these are getting harder to come by, at least the 2WD versions. When they do show up they're quite expensive. Does anyone have any good leads on sourcing a new part, beyond a simple google search, that's for a decent price? Also, it looks like 1WD are more common and cheaper, but I really like having a 2WD setup on my motorcycle. Is there much diminished off road performance with a 1WD set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racepres Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 So I guess I'm in the market for another final drive, again. Unfortunately it looks like these are getting harder to come by, at least the 2WD versions. When they do show up they're quite expensive. Does anyone have any good leads on sourcing a new part, beyond a simple google search, that's for a decent price? Also, it looks like 1WD are more common and cheaper, but I really like having a 2WD setup on my motorcycle. Is there much diminished off road performance with a 1WD set up?I have Never felt Handicapped by my one wheel drive MT-11... and, I like to Fly the car... so, I keep it Light and Simple.That, and If the old Girl ain't running after One Kick, I wonder, 2 kicks...it's Broken somehow... gotta fix it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussN Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 My one wheel drive rigs have worked just fine on dirt and gravel mountain roads, up to 6" of snow, andeven on roads for snow mobiles. So I have preferred one wheel drive Rigs.When motorcycling in Russia (visiting the Irbit Ural Factory) My sons and I road borrowed 2-wheel drive rigs.Fun but never required 2 wheel drive.Just my limited experience.RussN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott E Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 My one wheel drive rigs have worked just fine on dirt and gravel mountain roads, up to 6" of snow, andeven on roads for snow mobiles. So I have preferred one wheel drive Rigs.When motorcycling in Russia (visiting the Irbit Ural Factory) My sons and I road borrowed 2-wheel drive rigs.Fun but never required 2 wheel drive.Just my limited experience.RussNI agree. If the Dnepr I found in a barn had been 2-wheel drive I would have left it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PazyrykTheGreat Posted August 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Hello everybody, it's been a while. A bit of an update- I managed to get the final drive assembled back together properly (hopefully). I found out that the valve guides were worn out and the valves stems were bent on the outboard cylinder. So I replaced those and lapped in the new valves and they appear to seal well as well as having the whole head glass beaded in a glove box. But now I have a problem where I'm getting compression leaking from the head gasket. I tried with a new copper gasket ring, sprayed it with the sticky copper gasket sealer goop, torqued it up to 25lbs like I always have, and it's not sealing. I tried with a used gasket ring, but still not sealing. This is the same procedure I've always done and it's always sealed fine so I don't know why it's not holding in compression now. Should I try stacking two gasket rings? Should I get thicker gasket rings? I don't know the thickness of the ones I have since I don't have a micrometer. Should I put more torque pounds on it? I'm afraid to tighten the head on anymore for obvious reasons. The head looks fine and not cracked so I can't figure out what the problem is. The inboard head is torqued to 25lbs and seals fine. Thanks, Pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Blosser Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Are you sure it's the head gasket and not leaking through a valve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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