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Anyone ever stuffed a Guzzi twin into a Ural frame?


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And why not a HD V-Twin ?

It would be great !

 

 

Bit tall for the frame and no shaft, I reckon.

 

Plus the torque would probably snap spokes in third!!

 

Yeah! You could turn it sideways and adapt a Dnepr Tranny to it! I wonder what the adapter would look like?? :thumbsup!:

 

Dave

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I've always liked the horsepower and torque that can be wrung from a well tuned Guzzi motor. I'm sure with enough fabrication and all Guzzi driveline parts it could be done by someone really driven to such ends. I'd guess it would take a lot of frame and swingarm modifcation to pull it off. It'd be the rig from Hell. I'd love to see one !

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Any Guzzi 750, 850, 1000, or even the 1064 would be nice in a Russian rig. Lot's of torque and

7500 rpm on tap. The bigger engines would overwhelm the final drive, though.

 

Another good candidate that has the requisite right side drive shaft output is the Honda

tranverse twin from the gl500 and gl650, or to be real nasty the turbo 650 version.

Those engines are torquey and pretty reliable. Even the 500ccc has 50hp. Water cooled

of course, so that would be a hard swallow.

 

Richard

 

 

 

We know lots of BM engines have beeen re-located, as well as a few VW blocks, but a Guzzi?

 

Just a question really. Simply curious as to whether its been done...

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Any Guzzi 750, 850, 1000, or even the 1064 would be nice in a Russian rig. Lot's of torque and

7500 rpm on tap. The bigger engines would overwhelm the final drive, though.

 

Another good candidate that has the requisite right side drive shaft output is the Honda

tranverse twin from the gl500 and gl650, or to be real nasty the turbo 650 version.

Those engines are torquey and pretty reliable. Even the 500ccc has 50hp. Water cooled

of course, so that would be a hard swallow.

 

Richard

 

If you use a Guzzi gearbox, you have to use the Guzzi FD. If you use the Ural gearbox you can't use the Guzzi FD. With the Honda, the gearbox is integral so you have to use the Honda FD. The Ural has a two shaft gearbox so the pinion is on the other side of the crownwheel when compared to a three shaft gearbox.

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2CV engines used to be quite a popular modification in the UK.

 

my wife sandie says you'd be better of with a lawnmower engine lol ( she used to drive a 2cv, enjoyed it but was glad to be rid of it )

 

her boss used to wait outside with a hose pipe every time she turned the heater on it caught fire Heh Heh

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We know lots of BM engines have beeen re-located, as well as a few VW blocks, but a Guzzi?

 

Just a question really. Simply curious as to whether its been done...

 

I''ve always figured that, should my OEM engine ever seize-up

entirely, the logical option was a 750 Guzzi motor. The HP is

about the same - so it won't shred the final drive - and it looks

as if it could be mated to a Ural transmission pretty easily with

a simple slim adaptor plate. Some kind of custom link between

engine and tranny shafts would, obviously, be required - but

that's what machine shops are for.

 

I *think* the vertical dimensions would allow it to be fitted into

a factory frame without any cut-n-weld ... but I'd actually have

to put a measuring tape to one to be 100% sure.

 

Anyway, you'd still have an air-cooled twin - plus Guzzi motors

are rugged and reliable.

 

Stopped in at Holopaw Genes saturday - he'd just finished

modifying the frame for the Briggs-Dihatsu diesel-powered

Ural he's working on. Had to stretch it about 7 inches and

fabricate a new top rail that's several inches higher.

 

The quandry was whether a new gas tank was required to

make it look right. IMHO he could just braze new front 'ears'

on the factory tank to make it lie down pretty flat when bolted

in. The little turbo diesel produces about 35 HP, but *lots*

of torque ... so the plan is to switch to the high-geared FD

to take best advantage of where the power is.

 

So, even fairly radical changes to Urals aren't THAT hard to

make if you want to fit an 'exotic' motor. But the Guzzi -

that seems like a near-perfect fit from the get-go.

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